for example to show "happy" HKG people waiting for real democracy...........The reality is slightly different. Never we have seen so much poor & misery on the streets in HKG. Never we have seen so many mainlanders on the streets in HKG: Behaving bad, spitting, pushing, noisy. Yes, we know they bring a lot of money into the retail business & into the tourism sector. But the price is high.
Enjoy here one of the latest videos from HKG SAR government just related to CY Leungs policy address - it is just advertising:
And here a "masterpiece" called SEIZE THE OPPORTUNITY - enjoy:
HAVE A NICE WEEKEND !
Showing posts with label Made in Hong Kong. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Made in Hong Kong. Show all posts
Saturday, January 24, 2015
Thursday, January 15, 2015
CY LEUNG POLICY ADDRESS 2015
Today CY Leung had his 3rd policy address - he tried in our opinion to put on a nice face & to be fair & just at least he is trying to do something. But with his loss of credibility after OCCUPY CENTRAL it seems to be very hard for him to step on some firm ground - anyhow here is the link to the full paper from gov dept.:
Just click here !
And here some specials out from foreign forces - in this case BBC news:
The speech was delayed as several pro-democracy members staged a protest in the legislature urging him to resign.
Hong Kong's pro-democracy street protests came to an end in December.
In the opening remarks of his speech to the legislative council, which was also posted online, Mr Leung said Hong Kong had to make a choice between "implementing universal suffrage and a standstill" in the economy.
He said he recognised the aspirations of the mostly student protesters who had paralysed parts of Hong Kong for more than two months last year calling for universal suffrage.
But he said they did not fully understand Hong Kong's laws, and that the territory had never been promised total political autonomy.
CY Leung faced multiple calls from protesters to resign - but stood firm
The reforms to take place in 2017 - under which people will be able to vote directly for the chief executive but from a list of candidates approved by Beijing - were "a big step forward for Hong Kong's democratic development".
"As we pursue democracy, we should act in accordance with the law, or Hong Kong will degenerate into anarchy," he warned.
He also promised to generate more affordable housing in Hong Kong - a major issue in the wealthy but small territory - by announcing a new subsidised housing scheme.
Analysis: John Sudworth, BBC News, Shanghai
Another day and another angry exchange - business as usual then in the acrimonious realm of Hong Kong politics.
On one side, the yellow umbrellas came out in protest, and on the other, Hong Kong's chief executive repeated his mantra; China is sovereign, the constitution is clear, there can be no public nomination of election candidates. But, he suggested, democratic reform on these terms is surely better than none at all.
The trouble is, simply dismissing his opponents as people who fail to "properly understand" the rules is not a strategy that has so far helped lift his dismal approval rating. His pan-democrats know what the basic law says about the role of the nominating committee through which Beijing exercises its veto over who can stand. They just don't like it.
There's has never really been an argument about the technicalities of the constitution, but rather, it is one about a deep political aspiration. In his annual address today, Hong Kong's chief executive once again dismissed that aspiration as futile.
The lack of affordable housing in Hong Kong has become a huge issue, particularly for young people
Mr Leung's speech was delayed by several minutes after members of the pan-democratic bloc walked through the Legislative Council waving yellow umbrellas - a symbol of the protest movement - and banners calling for universal suffrage and for Mr Leung to resign.
Pro-democracy members Raymond Chan and Albert Chan were removed from the chamber by security guards, while about 20 others walked out.
One legislator, Albert Ho, said Mr Leung was "simply acting as a messenger for the Beijing government and Beijing authority" and not in the interests of Hong Kong's people.
China's government has said that while there will be a free vote for the leadership in 2017, there should only be two to three candidates, chosen by a pro-Beijing committee.
Last year's protesters wanted full democracy and for Mr Leung - who was himself elected by a committee of 1,200 people - to resign, but he repeatedly refused.
While tens of thousands of people took part in the initial demonstrations which paralysed parts of central Hong Kong, numbers had fallen to a few hundred - mostly students - by the time police and bailiffs dismantled the last camps in mid-December.
OK _ more you can find on the web & on You Tube !
Just click here !
And here some specials out from foreign forces - in this case BBC news:
Hong Kong's CY Leung warns of 'anarchy' in policy speech
Angry scuffles broke out before CY Leung began his annual address, as John Sudworth reports
Hong Kong's leader CY Leung has said the need for economic growth outweighs calls for greater democracy, in his first annual policy address since last year's pro-democracy protests.
Mr Leung said Hong Kong would "degenerate into anarchy" if it gave in to demands for universal suffrage.The speech was delayed as several pro-democracy members staged a protest in the legislature urging him to resign.
Hong Kong's pro-democracy street protests came to an end in December.
In the opening remarks of his speech to the legislative council, which was also posted online, Mr Leung said Hong Kong had to make a choice between "implementing universal suffrage and a standstill" in the economy.
He said he recognised the aspirations of the mostly student protesters who had paralysed parts of Hong Kong for more than two months last year calling for universal suffrage.
But he said they did not fully understand Hong Kong's laws, and that the territory had never been promised total political autonomy.
"As we pursue democracy, we should act in accordance with the law, or Hong Kong will degenerate into anarchy," he warned.
He also promised to generate more affordable housing in Hong Kong - a major issue in the wealthy but small territory - by announcing a new subsidised housing scheme.
Another day and another angry exchange - business as usual then in the acrimonious realm of Hong Kong politics.
On one side, the yellow umbrellas came out in protest, and on the other, Hong Kong's chief executive repeated his mantra; China is sovereign, the constitution is clear, there can be no public nomination of election candidates. But, he suggested, democratic reform on these terms is surely better than none at all.
The trouble is, simply dismissing his opponents as people who fail to "properly understand" the rules is not a strategy that has so far helped lift his dismal approval rating. His pan-democrats know what the basic law says about the role of the nominating committee through which Beijing exercises its veto over who can stand. They just don't like it.
There's has never really been an argument about the technicalities of the constitution, but rather, it is one about a deep political aspiration. In his annual address today, Hong Kong's chief executive once again dismissed that aspiration as futile.
Pro-democracy members Raymond Chan and Albert Chan were removed from the chamber by security guards, while about 20 others walked out.
One legislator, Albert Ho, said Mr Leung was "simply acting as a messenger for the Beijing government and Beijing authority" and not in the interests of Hong Kong's people.
China's government has said that while there will be a free vote for the leadership in 2017, there should only be two to three candidates, chosen by a pro-Beijing committee.
Last year's protesters wanted full democracy and for Mr Leung - who was himself elected by a committee of 1,200 people - to resign, but he repeatedly refused.
While tens of thousands of people took part in the initial demonstrations which paralysed parts of central Hong Kong, numbers had fallen to a few hundred - mostly students - by the time police and bailiffs dismantled the last camps in mid-December.
OK _ more you can find on the web & on You Tube !
Sunday, October 12, 2014
BACKSTABBERS
DEDICATED TO THE HONG KONG GOVERNMENT !
Saturday, October 11, 2014
8 THINGS HONG KONG PEOPLE ARE TIRED OFF (ADDING REGINA IP TO POINT 8)
NO. 1:
PERMANENT RENT INCREASING
NO. 2:
NOT ENOUGH PUBLIC HOUSING
NO. 3:
NO SALARY RISE - BUT EVERYTHING ELSE IS RISING
NO. 4:
BAD AIR
NO. 5:
PROBLEMS IN THE EDUCATION SECTOR - IT IS BUSINESS NOW
NO. 6:
NO HOPE / FUTURE UNDER CURRENT SYSTEM FOR MANY GRASSROOT WORKERS
NO. 7:
GOVERNMENT IS DOING NOTHING TO IMPROVE 1-6
NO. 8:
CY LEUNG & CARRIE LAM + REGINA IP (ADDED BY THE HINT OF A FOLLOWER)
PERMANENT RENT INCREASING
NO. 2:
NOT ENOUGH PUBLIC HOUSING
NO. 3:
NO SALARY RISE - BUT EVERYTHING ELSE IS RISING
NO. 4:
BAD AIR
NO. 5:
PROBLEMS IN THE EDUCATION SECTOR - IT IS BUSINESS NOW
NO. 6:
NO HOPE / FUTURE UNDER CURRENT SYSTEM FOR MANY GRASSROOT WORKERS
NO. 7:
GOVERNMENT IS DOING NOTHING TO IMPROVE 1-6
NO. 8:
CY LEUNG & CARRIE LAM + REGINA IP (ADDED BY THE HINT OF A FOLLOWER)
Sunday, September 28, 2014
Somehow I like this - but is still not doing the REALITY CHECK
NICE SONG - BUT AWAY FAR FROM WHAT IS THE REALITY IN THE PLACE YOU ARE LIVING - THE TRUTH NEEDS SOME TIME TO SHINE TROUGH.
Real democracy will not be achieved only in HKG - it will only work if it is achieved in the mainland also.........
Saturday, September 27, 2014
Where is CY LEUNG ? Message to the protesters !
MESSAGE TO CY LEUNG:
Mr. CY Leung where are you ?
Hiding ?
Why are you not able to talk to the people ?
Are you representing Hong Kong or not ?
How much harm do you want to cause to Hong Kong ?
How many businesses you are destroying ?
How many phone calls you got from Beijing today, asking you what is going on THERE ?
Any further Police brutality will only escalate situation.
MESSAGE TO THE PROTESTERS:
Do a reality check would be helpful.
Double check the BASIC LAW.
Understand in what country you are living.
Do not compare Hong Kong with the countries your parents have sent you after pissing the pants
in the wake of the hand-over 1997. Hong Kong is not Canada, USA or UK.
Behave ! Central Government will not give in.
All stupid actions will not help - be smart - take what is offered & go from there.
Do not be frustrated.
Better work on the more impotant issues: Poverty, Home prices, Corruption &..............
DO NOT TRY TO COPE WITH POLICE.
Do not get out of control - do not give reasons Beijing interfere with force !
Mr. CY Leung where are you ?
Hiding ?
Why are you not able to talk to the people ?
Are you representing Hong Kong or not ?
How much harm do you want to cause to Hong Kong ?
How many businesses you are destroying ?
How many phone calls you got from Beijing today, asking you what is going on THERE ?
Any further Police brutality will only escalate situation.
MESSAGE TO THE PROTESTERS:
Do a reality check would be helpful.
Double check the BASIC LAW.
Understand in what country you are living.
Do not compare Hong Kong with the countries your parents have sent you after pissing the pants
in the wake of the hand-over 1997. Hong Kong is not Canada, USA or UK.
Behave ! Central Government will not give in.
All stupid actions will not help - be smart - take what is offered & go from there.
Do not be frustrated.
Better work on the more impotant issues: Poverty, Home prices, Corruption &..............
DO NOT TRY TO COPE WITH POLICE.
Do not get out of control - do not give reasons Beijing interfere with force !
HONG KONG GOVERNMENT - ESP. MR CY LEUNG - HERE IS YOUR BIG FAILURE
You must talk to the people - not only behaving like a remote controlled organization. That "silence" is making the people so angry - ARE YOU SO STUPID MR CY LEUNG ?
The aftermath of what comes all in the next days: The blame is on HKG Government !
Mr CY Leung - now you can show real leadership - do something for the people in your beloved Hong Kong. If you are only able to respond with police force, then you are not deserving of ruling Hong Kong ! Open dialogue !
The aftermath of what comes all in the next days: The blame is on HKG Government !
Mr CY Leung - now you can show real leadership - do something for the people in your beloved Hong Kong. If you are only able to respond with police force, then you are not deserving of ruling Hong Kong ! Open dialogue !
old one - but good one here !
Wednesday, September 24, 2014
Be aware October 1st - do not do anything stupid
message to all the better knowing guys / students / corrupt labour party leaders / democratic what ever nonsense coalitions:
BE AWARE ALL THAT AGGRESSION YOU ARE PLANNING ON THE 1ST OF OCTOBER - IT WILL ALL HIT BACK TO YOU & WHOLE HONG KONG - IT WILL NOT BE FOR THE GOOD - IT WILL BE VICE VERSA ! YOU ALL DID NOT READ BASIC LAW _ YOU ARE ALL DREAMING - BETTER TAKE CARE MORE THE REAL ISSUES HONG KONG IS FACING:
- POVERTY
- PROPERTY PRICES
- FOOD SCANDALS
- POLLUTION
- INFLATION
- PRICE HIKES
- UNEMPLOYMENT
- FAKE GOODS
AND YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT A NONSENSE CE ELECTIONS ? GET YORSELF RIGHT IN TRACK !
BE AWARE ALL THAT AGGRESSION YOU ARE PLANNING ON THE 1ST OF OCTOBER - IT WILL ALL HIT BACK TO YOU & WHOLE HONG KONG - IT WILL NOT BE FOR THE GOOD - IT WILL BE VICE VERSA ! YOU ALL DID NOT READ BASIC LAW _ YOU ARE ALL DREAMING - BETTER TAKE CARE MORE THE REAL ISSUES HONG KONG IS FACING:
- POVERTY
- PROPERTY PRICES
- FOOD SCANDALS
- POLLUTION
- INFLATION
- PRICE HIKES
- UNEMPLOYMENT
- FAKE GOODS
AND YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT A NONSENSE CE ELECTIONS ? GET YORSELF RIGHT IN TRACK !
Rafael Hui - a handful of shame for Hong Kong
This is excactly the kind of people we DO NOT NEED here in Hong Kong. But this Rafael Hui was part of Hong Kong government in top position. How many others will follow suit. Or was Mr. Hui just too stupid and the other are more smart to cover the "deals" ? Here some news about the honourful Mr. Hui. Lets hope he will end in jail.
Former Hong Kong chief secretary Rafael Hui says he accepted secret payoff from Beijing - See more at: http://business.asiaone.com/news/former-hong-kong-chief-secretary-rafael-hui-says-he-accepted-secret-payoff-beijing#sthash.dUCE9dAD.dpuf
ReutersTuesday, Sep 23, 2014HONG KONG - A former top Hong Kong civil servant told a court on Tuesday that he had received a secret payment of HK$11 million (S$1.8 million) "from Beijing" in 2007 through a businessman intermediary, local media reported. Hong Kong's former chief secretary, Rafael Hui, was testifying in one of the financial hub's largest corruption trials, charged with accepting "concealed and disguised" payments from property tycoons Thomas and Raymond Kwok, the billionaire co-chairmen of Asia's largest developer, Sun Hung Kai Properties Ltd, seeking government favour. Hui's testimony broadens the corruption implications of the case beyond Hong Kong, which returned to Chinese rule in 1997, and raises new questions on the ties between Hong Kong and Chinese officials. The case involves a series of payments and loans totalling more than HK$37 million allegedly paid to Hui, who headed Hong Kong's civil service from 2005 to 2007. Hui told the High Court that one particular payment worth some HK$11 million had been facilitated by Liao Hui, the influential former head of China's Hong Kong and Macau Affairs Office in Beijing, Hong Kong's public broadcaster RTHK reported. Hui told the court that during a meeting with Liao in Hong Kong in 2007, Liao had asked him to stay in his post for longer. Hui had declined, saying he had financial difficulties and that he'd prefer a higher-paying private sector job, RTHK reported. Hui cited Liao as saying that he would think of ways to help him out financially. Around half a year later, a former stock exchange official, Francis Kwan, approached Hui, after he had stepped down as chief executive, to say that "someone from Beijing" had contacted him and that there was now some money available, Hui told the court. He said he accepted the money, though it was not immediately clear what the payment was for. The source wasn't immediately made clear to Hui. But in 2008, on the sidelines of a meeting in Beijing, Liao suggested he had played a role. "I've now helped you. Don't overspend any more," Hui quoted Liao as saying to him at the time. The case has thrown a spotlight on the close relationship between the city's powerful developers and government in the former British colony, which returned to Chinese rule with wide-ranging autonomy and a separate legal system from the mainland. Liao was one of China's most experienced officials overseeing Hong Kong affairs during his time as director of the Hong Kong and Macau Affairs office - a high-level body under the State Council, or China's cabinet, in the years after 1997. Billionaire brothers' Hong Kong graft trial begins Click on thumbnail to view. Story continues after photos. Photos: AFP, Reuters, Bloomberg Who are the Kwok brothers and what do they own? Click on thumbnail to view. Story continues after photos. Photos: Courtesy of Sun Hung Kai Properties Limited, Bloomberg, AFP, Reuters Related Stories - See more at: http://business.asiaone.com/news/former-hong-kong-chief-secretary-rafael-hui-says-he-accepted-secret-payoff-beijing#sthash.dUCE9dAD.dpuf
Former Hong Kong chief secretary Rafael Hui says he accepted secret payoff from Beijing - See more at: http://business.asiaone.com/news/former-hong-kong-chief-secretary-rafael-hui-says-he-accepted-secret-payoff-beijing#sthash.dUCE9dAD.dpuf
ReutersTuesday, Sep 23, 2014HONG KONG - A former top Hong Kong civil servant told a court on Tuesday that he had received a secret payment of HK$11 million (S$1.8 million) "from Beijing" in 2007 through a businessman intermediary, local media reported. Hong Kong's former chief secretary, Rafael Hui, was testifying in one of the financial hub's largest corruption trials, charged with accepting "concealed and disguised" payments from property tycoons Thomas and Raymond Kwok, the billionaire co-chairmen of Asia's largest developer, Sun Hung Kai Properties Ltd, seeking government favour. Hui's testimony broadens the corruption implications of the case beyond Hong Kong, which returned to Chinese rule in 1997, and raises new questions on the ties between Hong Kong and Chinese officials. The case involves a series of payments and loans totalling more than HK$37 million allegedly paid to Hui, who headed Hong Kong's civil service from 2005 to 2007. Hui told the High Court that one particular payment worth some HK$11 million had been facilitated by Liao Hui, the influential former head of China's Hong Kong and Macau Affairs Office in Beijing, Hong Kong's public broadcaster RTHK reported. Hui told the court that during a meeting with Liao in Hong Kong in 2007, Liao had asked him to stay in his post for longer. Hui had declined, saying he had financial difficulties and that he'd prefer a higher-paying private sector job, RTHK reported. Hui cited Liao as saying that he would think of ways to help him out financially. Around half a year later, a former stock exchange official, Francis Kwan, approached Hui, after he had stepped down as chief executive, to say that "someone from Beijing" had contacted him and that there was now some money available, Hui told the court. He said he accepted the money, though it was not immediately clear what the payment was for. The source wasn't immediately made clear to Hui. But in 2008, on the sidelines of a meeting in Beijing, Liao suggested he had played a role. "I've now helped you. Don't overspend any more," Hui quoted Liao as saying to him at the time. The case has thrown a spotlight on the close relationship between the city's powerful developers and government in the former British colony, which returned to Chinese rule with wide-ranging autonomy and a separate legal system from the mainland. Liao was one of China's most experienced officials overseeing Hong Kong affairs during his time as director of the Hong Kong and Macau Affairs office - a high-level body under the State Council, or China's cabinet, in the years after 1997. Billionaire brothers' Hong Kong graft trial begins Click on thumbnail to view. Story continues after photos. Photos: AFP, Reuters, Bloomberg Who are the Kwok brothers and what do they own? Click on thumbnail to view. Story continues after photos. Photos: Courtesy of Sun Hung Kai Properties Limited, Bloomberg, AFP, Reuters Related Stories - See more at: http://business.asiaone.com/news/former-hong-kong-chief-secretary-rafael-hui-says-he-accepted-secret-payoff-beijing#sthash.dUCE9dAD.dpuf
Sunday, September 14, 2014
UNDERGROUND / GUTTER OIL from TAIWAN - here complete list of HKG companies.................
The lard / gutter oil / underground oil scandal widens - and as to no surprise surely HKG companies & distributors are defenitely involved
Here a list of companies which were using that kind of oil as per 14.09.14:
Just click here - King Ludwig Beerhall also on that list !
And here for getting further information the official webpage from HKG government for food safety - you can also find a lot of other useful information there:
Just click here & check your food at home.
Here a list of companies which were using that kind of oil as per 14.09.14:
Just click here - King Ludwig Beerhall also on that list !
And here for getting further information the official webpage from HKG government for food safety - you can also find a lot of other useful information there:
Just click here & check your food at home.
Friday, September 12, 2014
Michael Tien in Tycoon talk on TVB
At the end of that 23 minutes Michael Tien is asked if he would be interested in being the CE of Hong Kong.
His answer: "I am not that kind of animal". What a blow !
Clicjk here to see that whole interview with Michael Tien !
Clicjk here to see that whole interview with Michael Tien !
Thursday, September 11, 2014
GUTTER OIL - VERY DELICIOUS - IS ALL COMING FROM HKG ?
Some cuttings from SCMP here - doesnt sound so good - something is very wrong here. It seems everything is OUT OF CONTROL.
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Hong Kong company probed after 'claiming animal feed oil was edible'
PUBLISHED : Wednesday, 10 September, 2014, 5:18pm
UPDATED : Thursday, 11 September, 2014, 3:24am
Emily Tsang, Timmy Sung and Lawrence Chung in Taipei
The Centre for Food Safety is seeking legal advice on whether to take criminal action against a Hong Kong trading company suspected of selling oil intended for animal feed to Taiwan as fit for human consumption.
Documents from a Yuen Long manufacturer show that it sold the oil, produced from pork fat, to Globalway with the proper indication that it be used either as animal feed or for industrial purposes. But Globalway shipped it to Taiwan as edible oil and its invoice indicated it was "fit for human consumption" and free from pollution.
"We feel that the way [Globalway] handled [this] oil may be problematic, and we are seeking advice from the Department of Justice on whether to pursue legal action against the company," said the centre's consultant Dr Philip Ho Yuk-yin.
Taiwan's food and drug authority said yesterday that the Chang Guann company had imported more than 2,400 tonnes of the oil from Hong Kong since 2008, 300 tonnes of which were certified for "human use".
The manufacturer of the oil, Po Yuen Lard Company in Yuen Long, said it made the oil from unsold pork from wet markets. It sold it to local animal feed factories, bio-diesel factories and export companies.
Owner Kwok Wai-kwong told the Post: "Our products had been labelled, but of course I will not ask [customers] what they are going to use it for."
Chiang Yu-mei, deputy director general of Taiwan's Food and Drug Administration, said authorities were also investigating if the certificates were faked, as shipment and customs documents showed that the oil had certificates from Hong Kong notaries indicating that they had inspected the products.
It was shipped to Taiwan in two batches in March and May. The certificates said the oil was tested for acid value, aflatoxins and heavy metal and met all safety requirements, Chiang said.
The administration said it had sought help from Hong Kong authorities to check the sources and quality of the oil supplied by Globalway.
Chang Guann is accused of blending the oil with "gutter oil", an illegal substance made from kitchen waste and edible oil.
In Beijing, a spokesman for the State Council's Taiwan Affairs Office again confirmed the mainland had not imported any of the oil. He said quality watchdogs were checking import records and if any food products made with the oil were found they would be taken off shelves.
CCTV said Xiamen authorities had traced 4.9 tonnes of affected foods imported from Taiwan. Guangdong had not imported any such products since at least 2013, Xinhua reported.
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The Centre for Food Safety is seeking legal advice on whether to take criminal action against a Hong Kong trading company suspected of selling oil intended for animal feed to Taiwan as fit for human consumption.
Documents from a Yuen Long manufacturer show that it sold the oil, produced from pork fat, to Globalway with the proper indication that it be used either as animal feed or for industrial purposes. But Globalway shipped it to Taiwan as edible oil and its invoice indicated it was "fit for human consumption" and free from pollution.
"We feel that the way [Globalway] handled [this] oil may be problematic, and we are seeking advice from the Department of Justice on whether to pursue legal action against the company," said the centre's consultant Dr Philip Ho Yuk-yin.
Taiwan's food and drug authority said yesterday that the Chang Guann company had imported more than 2,400 tonnes of the oil from Hong Kong since 2008, 300 tonnes of which were certified for "human use".
The manufacturer of the oil, Po Yuen Lard Company in Yuen Long, said it made the oil from unsold pork from wet markets. It sold it to local animal feed factories, bio-diesel factories and export companies.
Owner Kwok Wai-kwong told the Post: "Our products had been labelled, but of course I will not ask [customers] what they are going to use it for."
Read More: Starbucks and 7-Eleven in Hong Kong drawn into ‘gutter oil’ scandal
Kwok said he had obtained the relevant licence from the Food and Environmental Hygiene Department. He added that Globalway was not a regular customer and they last did business in February.Chiang Yu-mei, deputy director general of Taiwan's Food and Drug Administration, said authorities were also investigating if the certificates were faked, as shipment and customs documents showed that the oil had certificates from Hong Kong notaries indicating that they had inspected the products.
It was shipped to Taiwan in two batches in March and May. The certificates said the oil was tested for acid value, aflatoxins and heavy metal and met all safety requirements, Chiang said.
The administration said it had sought help from Hong Kong authorities to check the sources and quality of the oil supplied by Globalway.
Chang Guann is accused of blending the oil with "gutter oil", an illegal substance made from kitchen waste and edible oil.
In Beijing, a spokesman for the State Council's Taiwan Affairs Office again confirmed the mainland had not imported any of the oil. He said quality watchdogs were checking import records and if any food products made with the oil were found they would be taken off shelves.
CCTV said Xiamen authorities had traced 4.9 tonnes of affected foods imported from Taiwan. Guangdong had not imported any such products since at least 2013, Xinhua reported.
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Tuesday, September 9, 2014
Taiwan gutter oil / lard - surely in HKG "no problem" - how naive the people are ?
‘Gutter Oil’ Scandal Raises Food-Safety Fears Once Again in Greater China

Potentially harmful oil may have been used in pastries sold by popular bakery chain and also 7-Eleven
A Taiwanese food-safety scare has spread to Hong Kong with the revelation that the city’s biggest bakery chain, as well as branches of 7-Eleven and Starbucks, may have been selling pastries made with so-called gutter oil.The Hong Kong–based South China Morning Post reports that the popular breakfast staple known as pineapple buns, offered in branches of Maxim’s Cakes and 7-Eleven, as well two specialty Starbucks outlets, could have been made with gutter oil — a potentially harmful blend of oil extracted from food waste, offal and the byproducts of tanneries.
The news once again puts the issue of food safety under the spotlight in a part of the world that has been bedeviled by everything from adulterated baby milk formula to exploding watermelons and even fake eggs.
The Post said that since August 2011 Maxim’s Cakes had bought 34 tons of oil from a Hong Kong importer, who in turn purchased it from Chang Guann, a major lard supplier based in Taiwan. The oil was used to make the bakery chain’s iconic pineapple buns — so called not because they contain pineapple but because of the distinctive shape of the sugar and biscuit crust baked onto the buns’ surface. All the items have now been recalled.
Police in Taiwan last week said that Chang Guann had purchased 243 tons of oil from a gutter oil ring in southern Taiwan since March. The Taiwanese lard giant — which says it was unaware that the oil was gutter oil — in turn sold 51,981 cartons of oil to hundreds of food companies around Asia, according to Taiwan’s Food and Drug Administration.
Authorities in Taiwan say that over a thousand Taiwanese companies have used oil supplied by Chang Guann to make a total of 139 different products. Local groceries across China pulled several Taiwanese brands of dumplings, sauces and noodles from their shelves over the weekend.
Many regional food suppliers and restaurants harbor reservations about the quality of food from China, where a series of recent scandals — including chicken feet marinated in hydrogen peroxide and the use of expired meat by one of the country’s top food suppliers — continues to unsettle consumers.
Still, Taiwan had boasted a better reputation.
“Bakeries from Hong Kong, Taiwan and Singapore have done particularly well in China because of worries about locally produced food,” wrote the New York Times, in a Sept. 6 article about the Mid-Autumn Festival pastries known as moon cakes.
But in the wake of the Chang Guann scandal, revelers could be shunning Taiwanese moon cakes this year. Hong Kong health officials told Agence France-Presse that moon cakes sold around the city are undergoing checks.
Maxim’s has told the Hong Kong authorities its moon cakes were not made with contaminated oil, but lab tests are being carried out, the Post reports.
[SCMP]
SHAMROCK SEAFOOD RESTAURANT MUST GO !
Located on 223, Nathan Road, lefthand side to the entrance of SHAMROCK HOTEL is this a nice Dim Sum place of the old traditional kind. Must close soon - I could not find out why. It is a pity: The food is good & the prices are reasonable.....maybe soon there will be another useless jewellery or watch shop inside this premises.
Thursday, September 4, 2014
HKG Goovernment hitting back at Pattens comments - it is now getting very close to EXTREME NONSENSE
No further comment to this - just enjoy reading !
HA the copy is a FULL MESS - doesnt matter enjoy some mess here !
FROM SCMP TODAY:
CY Leung’s office hits back at Hong Kong’s ex-governor Chris Patten over political reform PUBLISHED : Thursday, 04 September, 2014, 1:36pm UPDATED : Thursday, 04 September, 2014, 7:11pm Ng Kang-chung kc.ng@scmp.com . Most Popular Viewed Shared Commented . Nude photos purportedly of Jennifer Lawrence and other stars leaked online after hack attack Purported photos of 'Chinese Islamic State fighter' emerge online Britain has ‘moral obligation’ to speak up on Hong Kong, says ex-governor Chris Patten Former Hong Kong leader Tung Chee-hwa says 2017 vote will be ‘real’ democracy 'Today's Hong Kong is different': Rita Fan hits back at ex-governor Chris Patten We recommend News 09 Aug 2014 'You're late!' 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Hongkongers fear culture and… Comment 27 Aug 2014 Don't destroy Hong Kong for democracy Comment 04 Sep 2014 Give the Chinese their due place in the second world war fight… Comment 27 Aug 2014 World must show united front in fight against barbaric IS Lifestyle 01 Sep 2014 The best way to catch up on lost sleep Business 03 Sep 2014 Baidu's 'smart' chopsticks take stab at food safety Lifestyle 17 Aug 2014 Doubts raised about using Putonghua as medium of instruction for… Property 12 Aug 2014 Li-linked firm sells Shanghai building for 1.5b yuan Recommended by Promotions Win FREE tickets to watch Begin Again The Chief Executive's Office delivered a terse statement. Photo: Felix Wong The Chief Executive’s Office has hit back at former governor Chris Patten’s comments on Beijing’s reform plan, after Beijing loyalist Rita Fan Hsu Lai-tai criticised Patten for looking at Hong Kong from a “pre-handover viewpoint”. On Tuesday, Patten said the UK had a continuing “moral and political obligation to ensure that China respects its commitment”, set out in the Sino-British Joint Declaration, to “guarantee Hong Kong’s way of life for 50 years after 1997”. His comments followed Beijing on Sunday ruling out an open election for Hong Kong’s next leader in 2017. In a brief statement on Thursday, the office of Chief Executive Leung Chun-ying responded to Patten’s comments. “First, before Hong Kong’s return to the motherland, all governors of Hong Kong were not elected by Hong Kong people,” it said. “Second, the Sino-British Joint Declaration does not provide for universal suffrage at all. “Third, Hong Kong’s constitutional development under the Basic Law is an internal affair of our country and a matter for the central authorities and our people to decide.” Rita Fan urged Chris Patten to examine the Sino-British Joint Declaration. Photo: Sam Tsang The statement came after Fan, a member of the Standing Committee of the national parliament, the National People’s Congress, said that London had no role to play in the arrival of universal suffrage in Hong Kong. “There is no mention of universal suffrage in the Sino-British Joint Declaration….I hope Mr Patten could take a look at the Joint Declaration.” Regarding the selection of chief executive, the Sino-British Joint Declaration states “the chief executive will be appointed by the [Beijing government] on the basis of the results of elections or consultations to be held locally”. “So, in this sense, I don’t really know what Mr Patten was talking about,” Fan said. The Joint Declaration also states that Hong Kong should have a high degree of autonomy and executive power, and that personal rights in the territory must be enshrined by law. “The Hong Kong that Mr Patten understands is the Hong Kong before the handover. Today’s Hong Kong is different,” said Fan. Fan served in the cabinet of former governor David Wilson, but became a vocal critic of Patten in the 1990s. Patten’s comments were echoed by the lawmaker heading a British parliamentary inquiry on Hong Kong, who said Beijing appeared to have breached the Joint Declaration with Sunday’s ruling. Beijing has warned the UK to drop the inquiry. According to Sunday’s ruling, while Hong Kong could pick its chief executive under one-man one-vote in 2017, the candidates for the job would be chosen by a 1,200-member nominating committee, which would put forward only two or three who had to win the support of over half of its members. Pan-democrats say it is not genuine universal suffrage as the committee will screen out candidates not wanted by Beijing. They have vowed to vote down the plan in the legislature. Fan urged the pan-democrats to calm down and not to jump to conclusions, given that the final government plan would not be tabled to the legislature for voting before early next year. “It is regrettable that the pan-democrats do not know how to communicate with the central government. Anytime when a chance for communication arises, the pan-democrats will in advance make public their demands and vow not to accept anything if all of their demands are not satisfied. “That is not the way to communicate with the central government.”
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CY Leung’s office hits back at Hong Kong’s ex-governor Chris Patten over political reform PUBLISHED : Thursday, 04 September, 2014, 1:36pm UPDATED : Thursday, 04 September, 2014, 7:11pm Ng Kang-chung kc.ng@scmp.com . Most Popular Viewed Shared Commented . Nude photos purportedly of Jennifer Lawrence and other stars leaked online after hack attack Purported photos of 'Chinese Islamic State fighter' emerge online Britain has ‘moral obligation’ to speak up on Hong Kong, says ex-governor Chris Patten Former Hong Kong leader Tung Chee-hwa says 2017 vote will be ‘real’ democracy 'Today's Hong Kong is different': Rita Fan hits back at ex-governor Chris Patten We recommend News 09 Aug 2014 'You're late!' Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi irked as John Kerry… Comment 26 Aug 2014 Tourists need manners reminder News 01 Sep 2014 US graduate schools see fewer Chinese applicants than just a few… News 25 Aug 2014 Malaysia Airlines steward put hand down my pants, weeping passenger… Business 04 Sep 2014 Fantasia’s August sales up 119pc as Chinese cities ease curbs News 03 Sep 2014 Barristers question legality of Beijing's model for reform Lifestyle 01 Sep 2014 Home and cultural identity difficult to pinpoint for third-culture… Lifestyle 02 Sep 2014 Cantonese or Putonghua in schools? Hongkongers fear culture and… Comment 27 Aug 2014 Don't destroy Hong Kong for democracy Comment 04 Sep 2014 Give the Chinese their due place in the second world war fight… Comment 27 Aug 2014 World must show united front in fight against barbaric IS Lifestyle 01 Sep 2014 The best way to catch up on lost sleep Business 03 Sep 2014 Baidu's 'smart' chopsticks take stab at food safety Lifestyle 17 Aug 2014 Doubts raised about using Putonghua as medium of instruction for… Property 12 Aug 2014 Li-linked firm sells Shanghai building for 1.5b yuan Recommended by Promotions Win FREE tickets to watch Begin Again The Chief Executive's Office delivered a terse statement. Photo: Felix Wong The Chief Executive’s Office has hit back at former governor Chris Patten’s comments on Beijing’s reform plan, after Beijing loyalist Rita Fan Hsu Lai-tai criticised Patten for looking at Hong Kong from a “pre-handover viewpoint”. On Tuesday, Patten said the UK had a continuing “moral and political obligation to ensure that China respects its commitment”, set out in the Sino-British Joint Declaration, to “guarantee Hong Kong’s way of life for 50 years after 1997”. His comments followed Beijing on Sunday ruling out an open election for Hong Kong’s next leader in 2017. In a brief statement on Thursday, the office of Chief Executive Leung Chun-ying responded to Patten’s comments. “First, before Hong Kong’s return to the motherland, all governors of Hong Kong were not elected by Hong Kong people,” it said. “Second, the Sino-British Joint Declaration does not provide for universal suffrage at all. “Third, Hong Kong’s constitutional development under the Basic Law is an internal affair of our country and a matter for the central authorities and our people to decide.” Rita Fan urged Chris Patten to examine the Sino-British Joint Declaration. Photo: Sam Tsang The statement came after Fan, a member of the Standing Committee of the national parliament, the National People’s Congress, said that London had no role to play in the arrival of universal suffrage in Hong Kong. “There is no mention of universal suffrage in the Sino-British Joint Declaration….I hope Mr Patten could take a look at the Joint Declaration.” Regarding the selection of chief executive, the Sino-British Joint Declaration states “the chief executive will be appointed by the [Beijing government] on the basis of the results of elections or consultations to be held locally”. “So, in this sense, I don’t really know what Mr Patten was talking about,” Fan said. The Joint Declaration also states that Hong Kong should have a high degree of autonomy and executive power, and that personal rights in the territory must be enshrined by law. “The Hong Kong that Mr Patten understands is the Hong Kong before the handover. Today’s Hong Kong is different,” said Fan. Fan served in the cabinet of former governor David Wilson, but became a vocal critic of Patten in the 1990s. Patten’s comments were echoed by the lawmaker heading a British parliamentary inquiry on Hong Kong, who said Beijing appeared to have breached the Joint Declaration with Sunday’s ruling. Beijing has warned the UK to drop the inquiry. According to Sunday’s ruling, while Hong Kong could pick its chief executive under one-man one-vote in 2017, the candidates for the job would be chosen by a 1,200-member nominating committee, which would put forward only two or three who had to win the support of over half of its members. Pan-democrats say it is not genuine universal suffrage as the committee will screen out candidates not wanted by Beijing. They have vowed to vote down the plan in the legislature. Fan urged the pan-democrats to calm down and not to jump to conclusions, given that the final government plan would not be tabled to the legislature for voting before early next year. “It is regrettable that the pan-democrats do not know how to communicate with the central government. Anytime when a chance for communication arises, the pan-democrats will in advance make public their demands and vow not to accept anything if all of their demands are not satisfied. “That is not the way to communicate with the central government.”
Tuesday, September 2, 2014
Hong Kong democracy activists vent their anger against Beijing
now this for you on TOP !!!!! A little bit messy - but I dont care !
By Demetri Sevastopulo and Julie Zhu in Hong Kong
Democracy activists on Monday jeered a top Chinese official who was visiting Hong Kong to explain China’s decision to introduce universal suffrage with tough restrictions in the former British colony.
Li Fei, deputy secretary-general of China’s National People’s Congress Standing Committee, was speaking the morning after thousands of protesters gathered in the territory to voice their opposition to a plan for electoral reform that would prevent critics of Beijing from running for the post of Hong
Mr Li was forced temporarily to halt his speech amid heckling from pro-democracy activists. “The Chinese central government has broken its promise,” one shouted. “Shame on you.”
China on Sunday unveiled a long-awaited framework for universal suffrage – one person, one vote – for the 2017 election of chief executive, the top political job in the territory, but set tough conditions that ensure Beijing can vet candidates.
“Hong Kong people will have one person, one vote, but Beijing will select all the candidates – puppets. What is the difference between a rotten apple, a rotten orange and a rotten banana,” Martin Lee, founder of the Democratic party, told protesters on Sunday evening. “We want genuine universal suffrage and not democracy with Chinese characteristics.”
Occupy Central, a pro-democracy group backed by media tycoon Jimmy Lai, said it would proceed with a civil disobedience campaign that would involve blocking a key business district. Some Chinese commentators have said China might deploy soldiers on the Hong Kong streets if police are unable to control the protests.
“Fight for democracy, never give up . . . Civil disobedience, never bow our heads,” Chan Kin-man, one of the founders of Occupy Central, chanted to the protesters.
After months of heated debate and rallies over Hong Kong’s political future, China on Sunday said potential candidates for chief executive must receive majority backing from a nomination committee that would consist of 1,200 mostly pro-Beijing members. It would also allow no more than two or three candidates on the ballot.
“This is a very dark day for Hong Kong,” said Anson Chan, the former head of the Hong Kong civil service. “The rest of the world should condemn this decision for what it is . . . it is a colossal big step backwards.”
What is the difference between a rotten apple, a rotten orange and a rotten banana? We want genuine universal suffrage and not democracy with Chinese characteristics- Martin Lee, founder of the Democratic party
The US state department said Washington believed “the legitimacy of the chief executive will be greatly enhanced if the promise of universal suffrage is fulfilled and if the election provides the people of Hong Kong a genuine choice of candidates representative of the voters’ will”. London said it was studying the ruling.
The ruling will trigger an intense debate in Hong Kong’s Legislative Council (Legco), where a two-thirds majority is needed to approve the plan. Leung Chun-ying, the pro-Beijing chief executive, will face an uphill battle persuading Democrats to back the proposal.
Under the existing system, a candidate for chief executive needs support from one-eighth of the committee – which has twice allowed Democrats to run. By requiring majority backing, China has ensured that no Democrat can get on the ballot. Ms Chan said there was “no chance” any Democrat would support the framework.
Speaking in Beijing on Sunday before flying to Hong Kong, Mr Li said it would be a “big step backwards” if Legco did not support the plan. If it does not pass, the 2017 election will be run under the current system where the chief executive is elected by a 1,200-strong, mostly pro-Beijing, committee.
The debate over democracy has polarised Hong Kong. While people have more political rights than they had under British rule, critics of China are worried that the Communist party is weakening the territory’s freedoms.
Under the deal agreed by Margaret Thatcher and Deng Xiaoping, Hong Kong is governed under a “one country, two systems” principle that guarantees autonomy – except over foreign and defence policy – for 50 years after the 1997 handover.
But pro-democracy activists and many locals are increasingly concerned about the growing influence of China on Hong Kong. In June, China published a “white paper” on Hong Kong which sparked concern by suggesting that Hong Kong judges needed to be “patriotic”, raising questions about judicial independence
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Sunday, August 31, 2014
Decision was made on UNIVERSAL SUFFRAGE - no surprise at all !
Decision to nominate 2 - 3 candidates (Beijing happy ones). They can be elected by all HKG eligible voters. Now some gatherings in Central want to PROTEST. Lets see. Beijings decision was very clear & not a surprise at all.
So then what will HAPPEN today in Central ?
Finally today there will be announcements from the China government how the CE election in 2017 will be handled. Be aware there will be NO SURPRISE. It will be exactly as it is written in the BASIC LAW. Will it then come to OCCUPY CENTRAL ? Worst case YES - but it will not help at all. OCCUPY CENTRAL will only bring damage to Hong Kong as a city & to Hong Kong people.
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Hong Kong poised for political showdown on 2017 election; Jimmy Lai to join Occupy
With Beijing set to impose 2017 election limits, Jimmy Lai says he will join Occupy Central
PUBLISHED : Sunday, 31 August, 2014, 4:40am
UPDATED : Sunday, 31 August, 2014, 8:53am

Barricades placed outside government offices in Central in preparation for the planned Occupy protests. Photo: Felix Wong
With Beijing expected to confirm a tough framework today for the 2017 chief executive election, both sides of the political divide have stepped up the rhetoric.
The decision to limit the number of candidates who can stand is likely to trigger a showdown with Occupy Central campaigners - and there was an added twist to the saga yesterday when media tycoon Jimmy Lai Chee-ying said he would join the civil disobedience movement.
A former top Beijing official on the city's affairs warned that Occupy Central would end in bloodshed if its organisers refused to back down.
Chen Zuoer, former deputy director of the Hong Kong and Macau Affairs Office, also suggested in an RTHK interview that the movement was being "manipulated by Western countries to overthrow a regime", and that Beijing "would not tolerate such action".
But Occupy Central founder Benny Tai Yiu-ting emphasised that his campaign was not meant to challenge Beijing's sovereignty. "We are just seeking a fair electoral system, so that everyone can exercise their political rights," he said.
Eric Cheung Tat-ming, Benny Tai Yiu-ting and economics professor Sung Yun-wing on radio. Photo: David Wong
The National People's Congress Standing Committee is expected to endorse a decision today that only two or three candidates - who have secured half of a 1,200-strong nominating committee's support - will be allowed to stand in 2017, when Hong Kong picks its first chief executive by universal suffrage.
Pan-democrats say the framework would deprive people of a genuine choice of candidates. The Occupy Central campaign plans to hold a rally outside government headquarters today to announce its next move.
Lai - whose home was searched by graft-busters on Thursday over accusations that some lawmakers had accepted advantages after leaked emails exposed his donations to pan-democrats - confirmed in an RTHK interview that he would take part in Occupy and continue to donate to pan-democrats.
"I will participate in Occupy Central, lie on the street together and go to jail together [with other protesters]," he said, while dismissing suggestions that his donations were related to foreign powers.
On the opposite side, the Small and Medium Law Firms Association of Hong Kong, a group led by Maggie Chan Man-ki of the Beijing-friendly Democratic Alliance for the Betterment and Progress of Hong Kong, will launch a hotline tomorrow to offer free legal advice "for citizens affected by Occupy Central".
During his RTHK interview, Chen pointed to the conflicts in Libya and Ukraine in accusing Western countries of promoting Occupy Central.
"[In Libya and Ukraine,] some people persuaded specially trained citizens to take part in the civil disobedience movement, in a bid to create bloodshed," Chen said. "And when the government takes enforcement action, the masterminds take the moral high ground to condemn the governments and overthrow them."
When asked whether the People's Liberation Army's local garrison would be mobilised in the event of a large-scale sit-in in the financial hub, he replied: "Beijing would not sit there and ignore such a situation".
But Chen also said he believed Hong Kong police could handle the matter.
Speaking at a media gathering in Beijing, NPC deputy Dr David Wong Yau-kar said Occupy Central would not sway Beijing.
"Universal suffrage means a lot to Hong Kong, and we should welcome it happily," he said. "As time goes on, I think more people would want to have a vote" rather than to have a failed reform.
He lamented that the debate on political reform in the past year had highlighted key "fundamental issues" that had not been discussed rationally.
On Beijing officials' earlier warning about the relationship between democracy and national security, Wong said: "In a sense, it was quite naive for the pan-democrats to ask 'what does universal suffrage have to do with national security?'"
He said that if a pan-democrat became the city's leader, he could face a "dilemma" if someone organised a religious forum in town and decided to invite the Dalai Lama. Beijing would also be concerned about what such a chief executive could do with all the public resources and sensitive information at his fingertips, he suggested.
Wong said: "As long as pan-democrats call for things such as 'ending one-party dictatorship', it is unlikely that Beijing would allow them to run", as it was written in the national constitution that China shall be led by the Communist Party.
And if the pan-democrats were to rule Hong Kong, they should start grooming leaders who only focus on local issues and are not critical of the central government, Wong said.
He lamented that given their experience and standing, pan-democrats - especially the moderates - did not dare to say "no" and allowed radicals and student activists to tell them what to do.
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The decision to limit the number of candidates who can stand is likely to trigger a showdown with Occupy Central campaigners - and there was an added twist to the saga yesterday when media tycoon Jimmy Lai Chee-ying said he would join the civil disobedience movement.
A former top Beijing official on the city's affairs warned that Occupy Central would end in bloodshed if its organisers refused to back down.
Chen Zuoer, former deputy director of the Hong Kong and Macau Affairs Office, also suggested in an RTHK interview that the movement was being "manipulated by Western countries to overthrow a regime", and that Beijing "would not tolerate such action".
But Occupy Central founder Benny Tai Yiu-ting emphasised that his campaign was not meant to challenge Beijing's sovereignty. "We are just seeking a fair electoral system, so that everyone can exercise their political rights," he said.
Eric Cheung Tat-ming, Benny Tai Yiu-ting and economics professor Sung Yun-wing on radio. Photo: David WongThe National People's Congress Standing Committee is expected to endorse a decision today that only two or three candidates - who have secured half of a 1,200-strong nominating committee's support - will be allowed to stand in 2017, when Hong Kong picks its first chief executive by universal suffrage.
Pan-democrats say the framework would deprive people of a genuine choice of candidates. The Occupy Central campaign plans to hold a rally outside government headquarters today to announce its next move.
Lai - whose home was searched by graft-busters on Thursday over accusations that some lawmakers had accepted advantages after leaked emails exposed his donations to pan-democrats - confirmed in an RTHK interview that he would take part in Occupy and continue to donate to pan-democrats.
"I will participate in Occupy Central, lie on the street together and go to jail together [with other protesters]," he said, while dismissing suggestions that his donations were related to foreign powers.
On the opposite side, the Small and Medium Law Firms Association of Hong Kong, a group led by Maggie Chan Man-ki of the Beijing-friendly Democratic Alliance for the Betterment and Progress of Hong Kong, will launch a hotline tomorrow to offer free legal advice "for citizens affected by Occupy Central".
During his RTHK interview, Chen pointed to the conflicts in Libya and Ukraine in accusing Western countries of promoting Occupy Central.
"[In Libya and Ukraine,] some people persuaded specially trained citizens to take part in the civil disobedience movement, in a bid to create bloodshed," Chen said. "And when the government takes enforcement action, the masterminds take the moral high ground to condemn the governments and overthrow them."
When asked whether the People's Liberation Army's local garrison would be mobilised in the event of a large-scale sit-in in the financial hub, he replied: "Beijing would not sit there and ignore such a situation".
But Chen also said he believed Hong Kong police could handle the matter.
Speaking at a media gathering in Beijing, NPC deputy Dr David Wong Yau-kar said Occupy Central would not sway Beijing.
"Universal suffrage means a lot to Hong Kong, and we should welcome it happily," he said. "As time goes on, I think more people would want to have a vote" rather than to have a failed reform.
He lamented that the debate on political reform in the past year had highlighted key "fundamental issues" that had not been discussed rationally.
On Beijing officials' earlier warning about the relationship between democracy and national security, Wong said: "In a sense, it was quite naive for the pan-democrats to ask 'what does universal suffrage have to do with national security?'"
He said that if a pan-democrat became the city's leader, he could face a "dilemma" if someone organised a religious forum in town and decided to invite the Dalai Lama. Beijing would also be concerned about what such a chief executive could do with all the public resources and sensitive information at his fingertips, he suggested.
Wong said: "As long as pan-democrats call for things such as 'ending one-party dictatorship', it is unlikely that Beijing would allow them to run", as it was written in the national constitution that China shall be led by the Communist Party.
And if the pan-democrats were to rule Hong Kong, they should start grooming leaders who only focus on local issues and are not critical of the central government, Wong said.
He lamented that given their experience and standing, pan-democrats - especially the moderates - did not dare to say "no" and allowed radicals and student activists to tell them what to do.
This article appeared in the South China Morning Post print edition as Hong Kong poised for political showdown
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****** Aug 31st 2014
11:52am
11:52am
While being born in Hong Kong is truly a privilege, bestowing our pure intentions towards Hong Kong's progress is a blessing. In this context, when we reflect upon universal suffrage, we should first of all carefully understand that Beijing has the best and fair interests of Hong Kong and its people at heart always.
Universal suffrage refers to embracing our values that inspire practice of righteousness in all that we think, do and express consistently. Righteousness refers to practicing the moral values of our lives. Our Parents, Families, Relatives, Friends and our Proud Community embraces the characteristics of being called Asia's World City; let us all strive towards upholding and contributing towards this vision earnestly.
Hong Kong is the land of promises which means each and every one of us in Hong Kong is/are a promise to Hong Kong and China as well; and being promissories, let us honor this virtuous privilege characteristically. Remember that the world is watching and more than the admirable gaze of the world it is our own consciousness that is witnessing whether we are being true to our calling and purpose of life which always inspires us to living our divine essence which embodies the practices of peaceful co habitation respectfully with one another without causing any civil disobedience or hindering one another's safety and well being please, God bless.
Universal suffrage refers to embracing our values that inspire practice of righteousness in all that we think, do and express consistently. Righteousness refers to practicing the moral values of our lives. Our Parents, Families, Relatives, Friends and our Proud Community embraces the characteristics of being called Asia's World City; let us all strive towards upholding and contributing towards this vision earnestly.
Hong Kong is the land of promises which means each and every one of us in Hong Kong is/are a promise to Hong Kong and China as well; and being promissories, let us honor this virtuous privilege characteristically. Remember that the world is watching and more than the admirable gaze of the world it is our own consciousness that is witnessing whether we are being true to our calling and purpose of life which always inspires us to living our divine essence which embodies the practices of peaceful co habitation respectfully with one another without causing any civil disobedience or hindering one another's safety and well being please, God bless.

tinborhui Aug 31st 2014
11:46am
11:46am
Wong is right that universal suffrage is desired by Hong Kong. It is unfortunate that Beijing is not offering it. Rather they seem set to offer a manipulated election under the pretense of universal suffrage.

norodnik Aug 31st 2014
11:39am
11:39am
RTHK Radio just announced the Chen Zuo'er said that if OC doesn't back down "there will be blood"...SCMP follow through with this. It's an outrageous statement...and they've compared OC with Libya and Ukraine. If they really think so then they really have no comprehension of reality.
We could use their logic to say that the CCP is the soft p-o-r-n version of North Korea...and you wouldn't be wrong....
We could use their logic to say that the CCP is the soft p-o-r-n version of North Korea...and you wouldn't be wrong....

taleni8 Aug 31st 2014
11:24am
11:24am
It only hurts more if you struggle and resist. Just lie there and think of England.

ejmciii Aug 31st 2014
10:42am
10:42am
Witness the death of one nation, two systems. RIP hopes and dreams that the Communists would honor their agreements as to autonomy. Threats of the PLA marching into central must make the Beijing tools happy. Soon their masters will come home to set things right. The death of HK as a financial center comes not from Occupy Central but from the tyrants in Beijing who will not tolerate dissent from their edicts. Communists rule and citizens take their orders like good boys and girls. These omens portend an ill wind coming from China and likely soon.

the sun also rises Aug 31st 2014
10:18am
10:18am
It looks our democrat-****-tycoon Mr.Jimmy Lai is a person of action , not just words for democracy in his media: the Apple Daily ( a popular local paper) and Next Magazine ( a popular local weekly which subscribers not fewer than 25,000 !) plus donations( totally HK$40 millions in the past two years ) to local democratic camp members. Recently, in the so-called 'Anti-Occupy Central' campaign, the local leftists /pro-Beijing elements accused our pro-non-violent civil-disobedience :'Occupy Central' organisers of letting other people's adult children going to be killed /jailed but never theirs ! Now Jimmy himself publicly declared he would take part in the 'Occupy Central' campaign and got ready to be jailed---a strong retort towards those loyal slave-servants in town indeed ! Shame on these slave-servants who ask Hongkongers to be loyal and obedient people of a corrupted autocratic ruling regime ! Shame on them indeed !

Kailim Aug 31st 2014
9:22am
9:22am
We don't have to come to this. Why not build another democracy of Chinese people along with Taiwan, the only condition is forsaking anti-Beijing stance.
By the way, Central is nothing related to democracy and is our business hub. It is meant livelihood to many people, not just tycoons. Don't ruin it.
By the way, Central is nothing related to democracy and is our business hub. It is meant livelihood to many people, not just tycoons. Don't ruin it.

Flypaper Aug 31st 2014
10:17am
10:17am
@kailim, there's nothing "anti-Beijing" about it. What we want is simply for Beijing to keep its promise: Hong Kong ruled by Hong Kongers. That means enabling what is already our civil right under international and Hong Kong law of permanent residents being allowed to vote and stand in HK elections. Why won't you support this very simple call?
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